Grim Cesta Value - 55 monk offhand - Guild Wars Forums

TheRaven · Jan 07, 2009, 11:43 AM // 11:43

Ok, this is probably a stupid question, but I'm curious as to the value of this item. I routinely sell the ones I get for 4k and I see 3-6k sales all the time. This is the quest reward item for Cities of Ascalon.

Today I noticed a thread in the high end forum of Ventari's and the seller is asking 100k + xxectos for this item. I laughed. Then I noticed that people are actually bidding on it. The bidders are the regulars around here and not joke bidders.

So, what's up? I'm curious now. Why is his grim cesta worth so much and where did it come from? I'm pretty sure it's now that it's not the normal quest reward item.

rick1027 · Jan 07, 2009, 11:54 AM // 11:54

maybe a guy and a couple of his friend got together with an idea to get the value of the item up is my guess. i hope so i got a half dozen of these in storage. id say they are scamming and its not an actual sale seeing you still get the item from the quest. last i knew 3 to 6k is still the going rate

Mister Me · Jan 07, 2009, 12:06 PM // 12:06

The one in the High-end thread is exactly the same as the one from the Cities of Ascalon quest, except, it requires Healing Prayers instead of Blood Magic... It might be fake, but I doubt it.

Malice Black · Jan 07, 2009, 12:10 PM // 12:10

Req Healing is a lot rarer. If I remember right they changed it to req blood to stop a certain bot farming build. Not positive about that though.

Rothan Celt · Jan 07, 2009, 01:29 PM // 13:29

I sell for 5k 5 being 55 monk it seems appropriate!

DarkFlame · Jan 07, 2009, 03:42 PM // 15:42

It was the original reward for the Cities quest. But given its bad stats, most people just merch'ed them, including me. That was all before 55 builds were popular(or even known). It was changed into the blood req one not long after.

They are rare, hence you're seeing it in the high end section.

Mangary · Jan 07, 2009, 03:45 PM // 15:45

about Cities of Ascalon quest reward scam on gw-wiki ->

There is often misinformation about the availability of the quest items above. It comes in either the form of "This quest is no longer available," or "The -50 health focus is no longer rewarded." This is incorrect.

There are likely two main causes for the rumors:

1. The conditions to make this quest available are not very straight forward. Thus if people arrive in Ascalon City and expect to find this quest immediately, they would be misled into thinking the quest has been nerfed. Additionally, the quest reward summary when accepting the quest does not show the full stats of the reward, especially the "-50 health" detail, misleading people into thinking the -50 health focus quest reward has been removed from the quest.
2. Because the -50 health plays a very vital role in 55 Monking, there are people simply creating the rumors to increase the price so they can make a bigger profit.

hope you find it useful

GWEXTREEMFAN · Jan 07, 2009, 07:53 PM // 19:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister Me

The one in the High-end thread is exactly the same as the one from the Cities of Ascalon quest, except, it requires Healing Prayers instead of Blood Magic.

that...
it's no longer available so it's a collective + the energy helps as you meet the requirments with ease

TheRaven · Jan 07, 2009, 10:42 PM // 22:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by rick1027

maybe a guy and a couple of his friend got together with an idea to get the value of the item up is my guess. i hope so i got a half dozen of these in storage. id say they are scamming and its not an actual sale seeing you still get the item from the quest. last i knew 3 to 6k is still the going rate

Nah, I recognize a few of the bidders names and they are not scammers. The auction appeared legit which really made me curious. (Hmmm, your name looks familiar too, Rick

)

I guess I've never really looked that closely at the reqs for the grim cesta. I just saw the -50 and knew that was the key.

Thanks for the answer guys. LOL, now I'm getting interested in the auction.

Antares Ascending · Jan 08, 2009, 12:44 AM // 00:44

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This is most likely a grim from Pre-Searing. The merchants used to sell them.
I remember only because I bought one of theses &*#@ useless things by mistake. I was very miffed that I got another for a reward in the Citys quest.

When -55s got popular I popped a char into pre to pick up one of these now
wonderful and very useful gems...wrong! The Pre-Searing Grim Cesta had been changed to regular pre type stats.

Don't remember weather the Grim Cesta in pre was healing but I'm thinking it probably was which could explain its rarity

Ant

BogusDude · Jan 08, 2009, 10:32 AM // 10:32

If its any consolation i merchanted both my cesta's and HoD swords before i knew anything about them lol

Question is though, if you've successfully 55'd all these years without one, do you really need one?

Yang Whirlwind · Jan 08, 2009, 10:52 AM // 10:52

As Sell Administrator I have checked the thread mentioned when it was first submitted.

It has already been mentioned here but I will repeat it to make sure there is no doubt as to the legitimacy of the sale in question:

The requirement of the -50 health off-hand rewarded for doing the Cities of Ascalon quest was changed to require Blood Magic instead of Healing Prayers.
Any of the off-hands with the Healing requirement is rare to come by and is an item people are willing to pay considerably more for then the Blood Magic version.

The quest was also changed so you now receive either the -50 health off-hand or another off-hand with completely different stats.

The Blood Magic off-hand with -50 health is still available as quest reward, but you are no longer certain to get it every time you complete the quest on a new character.

TheRaven · Jan 08, 2009, 11:14 PM // 23:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yang Whirlwind

The quest was also changed so you now receive either the -50 health off-hand or another off-hand with completely different stats.

The Blood Magic off-hand with -50 health is still available as quest reward, but you are no longer certain to get it every time you complete the quest on a new character.

Are you sure about that Yang? I've probably started at least 20 prophecies characters over the years (alas many did not survive the trip over the mountains) and I have never failed to get the -50 cesta from that quest. If there is a chance of not getting it, then the odds must heavily favor it dropping. Perhaps a 95 to 5% chance?

Zebideedee · Jan 10, 2009, 01:28 PM // 13:28

I got 10k for one, and swapped another for a mini wind rider.

On my first char ever, I sold to the merchant lol

charzino · Sep 13, 2009, 07:14 AM // 07:14

Hey is anyone able to send me the grim cesta for 55 monk, wisp me ingame on 'Chazzmo Wazzmo' thanks.

charzino · Sep 13, 2009, 07:15 AM // 07:15

Sell* sorry miss type

Eskimoz · Sep 13, 2009, 10:37 PM // 22:37

There's an edit button brah.

Dzjudz · Sep 13, 2009, 10:54 PM // 22:54

And for buying items, there's the ventari section of the forum.

Winston · Sep 14, 2009, 12:08 AM // 00:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yang Whirlwind

Any of the off-hands with the Healing requirement is rare to come by and is an item people are willing to pay considerably more for then the Blood Magic version.

/me checks his grim cestas'

*Darcy* · Sep 14, 2009, 12:24 PM // 12:24

If you have doubts about an item in the Sell forums, just pm a mod. They are very vigilant about deleting bogus threads.

Jan 07, 2009, 11:43 AM // 11:43	#1
TheRaven Desert Nomad Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Virginia Guild: Spirit of Elisha Profession: W/	Grim Cesta Value - 55 monk offhand Ok, this is probably a stupid question, but I'm curious as to the value of this item. I routinely sell the ones I get for 4k and I see 3-6k sales all the time. This is the quest reward item for Cities of Ascalon. Today I noticed a thread in the high end forum of Ventari's and the seller is asking 100k + xxectos for this item. I laughed. Then I noticed that people are actually bidding on it. The bidders are the regulars around here and not joke bidders. So, what's up? I'm curious now. Why is his grim cesta worth so much and where did it come from? I'm pretty sure it's now that it's not the normal quest reward item.

Jan 07, 2009, 12:10 PM // 12:10	#4
Malice Black Site Legend Join Date: Oct 2005	Req Healing is a lot rarer. If I remember right they changed it to req blood to stop a certain bot farming build. Not positive about that though. __________________ Old Skool '05

Sep 13, 2009, 07:14 AM // 07:14	#15
charzino Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Sep 2009	Grim Cesta for 55 monk Hey is anyone able to send me the grim cesta for 55 monk, wisp me ingame on 'Chazzmo Wazzmo' thanks.

Sep 14, 2009, 12:24 PM // 12:24	#20
Darcy Never Too Old Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rhode Island where there are no GW contests Guild: Order of First Profession: W/R	If you have doubts about an item in the Sell forums, just pm a mod. They are very vigilant about deleting bogus threads. __________________ That's me, the old stick-in-the-mud non-fun moderator. (and non-understanding, also)

Jan 07, 2009, 11:54 AM // 11:54	#2
rick1027 Jungle Guide Join Date: Apr 2006 Profession: W/R	maybe a guy and a couple of his friend got together with an idea to get the value of the item up is my guess. i hope so i got a half dozen of these in storage. id say they are scamming and its not an actual sale seeing you still get the item from the quest. last i knew 3 to 6k is still the going rate

Jan 07, 2009, 12:06 PM // 12:06	#3
Mister Me Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2007	The one in the High-end thread is exactly the same as the one from the Cities of Ascalon quest, except, it requires Healing Prayers instead of Blood Magic... It might be fake, but I doubt it.

Jan 07, 2009, 01:29 PM // 13:29	#5
Rothan Celt Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2008 Guild: Aura Profession: Mo/R	I sell for 5k 5 being 55 monk it seems appropriate!

Jan 07, 2009, 03:42 PM // 15:42	#6
DarkFlame Desert Nomad Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ascalon Profession: E/	It was the original reward for the Cities quest. But given its bad stats, most people just merch'ed them, including me. That was all before 55 builds were popular(or even known). It was changed into the blood req one not long after. They are rare, hence you're seeing it in the high end section.

Jan 07, 2009, 03:45 PM // 15:45	#7
Mangary Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2008 Profession: W/Rt	about Cities of Ascalon quest reward scam on gw-wiki -> There is often misinformation about the availability of the quest items above. It comes in either the form of "This quest is no longer available," or "The -50 health focus is no longer rewarded." This is incorrect. There are likely two main causes for the rumors: 1. The conditions to make this quest available are not very straight forward. Thus if people arrive in Ascalon City and expect to find this quest immediately, they would be misled into thinking the quest has been nerfed. Additionally, the quest reward summary when accepting the quest does not show the full stats of the reward, especially the "-50 health" detail, misleading people into thinking the -50 health focus quest reward has been removed from the quest. 2. Because the -50 health plays a very vital role in 55 Monking, there are people simply creating the rumors to increase the price so they can make a bigger profit. hope you find it useful

Jan 08, 2009, 12:44 AM // 00:44	#10
Antares Ascending Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2008 Profession: E/	. This is most likely a grim from Pre-Searing. The merchants used to sell them. I remember only because I bought one of theses &*#@ useless things by mistake. I was very miffed that I got another for a reward in the Citys quest. When -55s got popular I popped a char into pre to pick up one of these now wonderful and very useful gems...wrong! The Pre-Searing Grim Cesta had been changed to regular pre type stats. Don't remember weather the Grim Cesta in pre was healing but I'm thinking it probably was which could explain its rarity Ant

Jan 08, 2009, 10:32 AM // 10:32	#11
BogusDude Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: MARA Profession: R/	If its any consolation i merchanted both my cesta's and HoD swords before i knew anything about them lol Question is though, if you've successfully 55'd all these years without one, do you really need one?

Jan 08, 2009, 10:52 AM // 10:52	#12
Yang Whirlwind ~ Retired ~ Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark (GMT +1) Profession: E/	As Sell Administrator I have checked the thread mentioned when it was first submitted. It has already been mentioned here but I will repeat it to make sure there is no doubt as to the legitimacy of the sale in question: The requirement of the -50 health off-hand rewarded for doing the Cities of Ascalon quest was changed to require Blood Magic instead of Healing Prayers. Any of the off-hands with the Healing requirement is rare to come by and is an item people are willing to pay considerably more for then the Blood Magic version. The quest was also changed so you now receive either the -50 health off-hand or another off-hand with completely different stats. The Blood Magic off-hand with -50 health is still available as quest reward, but you are no longer certain to get it every time you complete the quest on a new character.

Jan 10, 2009, 01:28 PM // 13:28	#14
Zebideedee Jungle Guide Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: 55?? 57' 0" N / 3?? 12' 0" W Profession: N/Me	I got 10k for one, and swapped another for a mini wind rider. On my first char ever, I sold to the merchant lol

Sep 13, 2009, 07:15 AM // 07:15	#16
charzino Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Sep 2009	Sell* sorry miss type

Sep 13, 2009, 10:37 PM // 22:37	#17
Eskimoz Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: My house Profession: W/	There's an edit button brah.

Sep 13, 2009, 10:54 PM // 22:54	#18
Dzjudz Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz	And for buying items, there's the ventari section of the forum.